Leveling Up

w/ Gretchen Kelsey

Samantha and Gretchen explore how Gretchen became a “pusher”—someone who pushes people to work hard and be their best. On the Full Flush, they get into other topics that include "leveling up" literally in a video game with her husband and choosing the right college.

You can learn more about Gretchen by visiting her website.

Gretchen’s awesome sketch she made after we talked about being super heros! What’s your super power?